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Interview with Doctor K. P. Buteyko (1982)
Published in Buteyko
method. Its application in medical practice, ed. by K.P. Buteyko, 2-nd ed.,
1991, Titul, Odessa.
Question: Konstantin Pavlovich, how did you become a doctor? Please speak about
yourself.
Answer: I was born on January 27, 1923 in the village of Ivanitsa, which is 150
km away from Kiev (Ukraine). I come from a farmer-s family. My father was quite
fond of mechanics, and I inherited his passion. So, after finishing school I
successfully passed exams to Kiev Polytechnic, but then World War II began and I
had to go to a frontline-supplying motorcade. To tell you the truth, I got
really sick and tired of mechanics during the war years, and when the War ended,
I decided to start researching the most complex machine, the Man. I thought if I
learnt him, I-d be able to diagnose his diseases as easily as I had diagnosed
machine disorders, but the reality proved to be more complicated. In 1946 I
enrolled at the First Moscow Institute of Medicine. In my third year there I
became a member of the students- scientific society at the Department of
Therapeutics headed by Academician Evgeny Mikhaylovich Tareyev. In 1952 I took
my Degree with Honors and became a resident at the same Department. Later I was
offered a position of Director of the Functional Diagnostics Research
Laboratory. Regrettably, I was never able to make it work: there was no money,
no personnel or equipment whatsoever. An attempt to start a similar laboratory
at the Health Ministry Hospital in Moscow (on Odinnatsataya Parkovaya Street)
was also unsuccessful: we had the necessary equipment, but no staff. In 1958
Professor Meshalkin, the head of the Institute of Experimental Biology and
Medicine in Novosibirsk (the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Medical
Science), asked me to organize a functional diagnostics research laboratory in
the Institute, and it was actually done by 1960. However, my life went in a very
different direction as early as on the second month of my work as a doctor.
Question: That-s exactly what I was going to ask you about, your first steps.
Answer: I guess, I became a real doctor when I was a third-year student and
spent long hours in front of patients- beds trying to unravel the great mystery
of death. It was then that I noticed that breathing became deeper as death
approached: I could tell the day or even hour of the patient-s death by how
deeply they breathed.
Question: And what did your further observations come to?
Answer: At that time I already had a patient to learn how to auscultate the
lungs. I got him to breathe deeply, and he fainted (an assistant explained it
was because of brain suroxygenation). This accident determined the future field
of my research. After having worked independently for almost two months, it
dawned at me that some diseases (in particular, high blood pressure that I have)
developed due to deep breathing. I immediately checked that: I breathed
shallower, and some high blood pressure symptoms (headache and palpitation)
reduced. On breathing deeper they returned. I understood I revealed the cause. I
was also struck by the thought that hyperventilation was present in many people.
Therefore, it was easy to deduce that hypertensive vasospasm could appear in
other diseases, for example, angina with infarctious outcome, endarteritis of
legs or stomach ulcer.
Question: Can you say you were on the verge of discovery?
Answer: Oh yes, that was a discovery. I could already support my idea
theoretically. We knew that deep breathing removed carbon dioxide from the
organism which, in its turn, caused vasospasm resulting in hypoxia. I didn-t
sleep at that memorable night of my duty in the clinic near Petrovskiye Gates. I
was busy testing my ideas on patients. I asked asthmatics with angina and other
ailments to breathe less. The symptoms were gone at once. When I asked them to
breathe deeper, the symptoms resumed. By the next morning I was pretty much sure
that was a discovery, a global breakthrough for our topsy-turvy medicine.
Question: So what did you do? Speak about your further work to provide the
theoretical, scientific and practical bases for your innovation.
Answer: A month of hard work in Lenin and the Central Medicine Libraries was
dedicated to finding an answer to the question that really bothered me: has such
a simple idea never occurred to anyone in the whole history of medicine? I
searched all in vain: it took humanity ages to learn how to breathe deeply
without even trying to breathe less for an instant. Even in the yoga there were
no gradual breath reduction principles.
However, I was lucky to stumble across the information about a few similar
experiments that proved my idea was correct. Then I decided to share it with my
teachers but found no sympathy.
I remembered that was the case of Semelweiss, a Hungarian doctor, obstetrician
and surgeon who discovered sepsis in 1846. His friend injured a finger while
performing an autopsy on a woman who had died from sepsis (or puerperal fever,
as it was then called). Within three days he got puerperal fever himself.
Semelweiss suspected the disease was caused by something that penetrated into
the wound from the dead body. He assumed that there was some kind of ptomaine
that infected people (he had no knowledge of microbes which were discovered by
Pasteur only twenty-five years later). Trying to verify his supposition,
Semelweiss decided to wash hands before operations and disinfect them with
chloride lime. He asked his assistants to do that too. At that time about
one-third of all parturient women and operated patients died from sepsis. The
three months of experiments confirmed: lethal cases were no more. He reported
that to the surgery society and suggested the others should do the same in their
clinics. He was proclaimed crazy.
The fate of an English Professor Lister, who ten years later also called out for
washing hands before surgery, was quite akin. Only when the discovery became
common knowledge and relatives of patients came to clinics to see if surgeons
did wash their hands, they had to comply. This happened fifty years after
Ignacio Semmelweis- discovery!.. I realized that unsubstantiated declarations
would lead me nowhere and took to organizing an experimental research
laboratory. I needed to get data, I needed to handle them, I needed to find
interrelations, formulate them, and only then come forward with grounds for my
idea.
Question: Please speak more about your further research and experiments.
Answer: It was when the functional diagnostics research laboratory in Professor
Meshalkin-s Institute was being created. In 1958-1959 we examined about 200 sick
and healthy people. The earliest interconnections, mechanisms and correlations
that we obtained at the earliest stages confirmed my finding was correct. On
January 11, 1960 I summed my ideas up in a report to the Institute-s academic
council. I told them about our experiments that confirmed an objective
interdependence between deep breathing (hyperventilation), carbon dioxide
content, vasospasm and conditions of patients.
Question: And how did the members feel after hearing your report?
Answer: Stunned. Surgeons thought it was a catch as I proposed a lancet free
treatment of such ailments as asthma, high blood pressure or angina. As is well
known, surgery did not cure those illnesses; the death-rate was still high. My
method, based on hypoventilation, guaranteed almost 100% of recoveries. Quite
naturally, I expected surgeons would be glad. Alas, their reaction was totally
reverse.
Question: Luckily, it did not stop your research. What were the specific
practical results of the laboratory-s work?
Answer: Ten years of lab-s work and the use of state-of-the-art technologies
gave us vast knowledge of the main functions of human organism, sick or healthy.
We also managed to handle that data on computers and provide mathematical
formulae of physiological mechanisms. About 200 doctors, ill doctors, at that,
were trained in our laboratory. The official statistics says, more than 1,000
patients with asthma, high blood pressure and angina were totally cured as of
January 1, 1967.
Question: What-s the quintessence of your method?
Answer: Our method is the antipode of the conventional one. They say "breathe
deeply", we say ?breathe less, and not so deeply-.
Question: ?They- means Western European medicine?
Answer: Before getting to the core of the method, I-d like to mention I think of
two trends in medicine: the so-called ?official-, western medicine, and the
oriental, particularly Tibetan medicine, the judd-shee. The truth turned out to
be on the Tibetan side: they have always reckoned all illnesses were caused by
respiratory disorders. The nucleus of the method is reduction of breathing
depth. How? Best of all, via relaxation of respiratory muscles. What happens
then? Feel of lack of air, if breathing reduces. These are basically all
instructions, the method in a nut-shell.
Question: Back to your report to the council in January 1960, how was it taken?
Answer: As I have said, the majority of surgeons cold-shouldered me.
Nevertheless, the chairman, Professor Meshalkin, approved of it. He said it was
promising and ordered to continue experiments. Some time later he came down to
the laboratory and asked, ?Is it really the way you say it is?- He had severe
angina, attacks occurred almost on the daily basis, and no one dared to treat
him. Instruments in our laboratory showed he was on the verge of a severe
infarction. I created a high-class lab: we had about 30-40 instruments that
registered almost all primary functions of the human body and gave out about
100,000 informational units per hour. The data was handled on the computer,
which I called “complexator”, and the people gave it a name “the medical
combine”. Materials about it were publicized in press, for example, in the "Izobretatel
i Razionalizator" journal (volume 5, 1962, and volume 6, 1961). That was a
unique machine, still unsurpassed anywhere in the world.
Question: Was it patented?
Answer: Only some parts. Patenting the whole of it would have required a lot of
work, and that was not my principal objective.
Question: Was your method scientifically approved?
Answer: I suggested Professor Meshalkin we should approve it in the Institute-s
clinic. He refused flatly, though after having tested the method on himself (by
the way, this helped him get rid of his illnesses in literally a few days) he
was convinced we were right. Anyway, he prohibited any further research. Later
more rigorous procedures ensued, including confiscation of instruments.
Publications were forbidden, reports on the subject were reprimanded. Not only
Meshalkin had such an attitude, but some of his surgeon-disciples too. In 1963
similar measures were applied to other ideas that cast any kind of shadow on
surgery. Such faulty directorship ruined the Institute, but that saved my
laboratory. I was able to rescue about a third of all instruments, personnel and
premises. In 1963-1968 our research laboratory functioned as a part of the
Institute of Cytology and Genetics, Novosibirsk (the Siberian Branch of the USSR
Academy of Medical Science). Meshalkin-s clinic was subordinated to the RSFSR
Ministry of Health. I repeatedly tried and persistently asked to experiment with
our method, but was never taken seriously. Only as late as in January 1968,
after some supporting materials appeared in Soviet and foreign press, the method
was approved in Leningrad, in the Institute of Pulmonology headed by Academician
Uglov. Not long before that we had an unexpected visit from Academician
Petrovsky who assured us he would immediately recommend putting our method in
use once he had at least 80% of recoveries. He also said he would give us a
fifty-bed hospital for clinical trials. Our condition was we should have the
most complex cases, uncured by traditional methods. We began by banning all
drugs and soon healed them completely. Officially acknowledged was the 95%
positive effect. Only in two out of 46 patients success was not fully achieved.
At that, we had patients with up to 20 ailments! For instance, having diagnosed
the precancerous condition, doctors insisted on amputation of breast with one of
our female patients, which she rejected. We had her because of asthma. We cured
asthma and the rest as well. By the way, those two patients with no success
finished treatment later, of which they wrote a letter to the Minister.
Therefore, the method could have been seen as 100% effective. The conclusion was
delivered to the Minister of Health, Academician Petrovsky, but neither I nor
the Siberian Branch of the USSR Academy of Medical Science had ever seen it.
Academician Lavrentiev (the Chairman of the Siberian Branch) had a phone call
from the Ministry. They told him we had failed in Leningrad, and only two out of
46 patients were cured. That falsification was a good excuse to close the
laboratory. It was done on August 14, 1968. The staff was fired without any job
offers, and equipment was taken to pieces. (Note: In April 1980 the USSR Cabinet
of Ministers Committee for Science and Technology ordered to administer the
second official trial at the Department of Children Diseases of the First Moscow
Medical Institute, and it validated the results of the approbation in
Leningrad).
Question: However, the method didn-t die?
Answer: No, it didn-t because the doctors we had cured continued to practice
with it nation-wide. Although here in Moscow there are quite a few doctors that
had been cured by us, none of the medical institutions here uses it. Our method
works in Kharkov, Chernigov, Kakhovka, Leningrad, Krasnoyarsk, Khabarovsk,
Sverdlovsk- We are now trying to convince the doctors they should draw on our
theory, learn the method and employ it in order to cure 50,000,000
hyperventilation patients in the USSR.
Question; What scientific laws support your discovery and the method based on
it?
Answer: Our theory is a developed hyperventilation syndrome theory.
Hyperventilation syndrome is the initial stage of the deep breathing disease.
The theory is based on up-to-date concepts of the grandiose biological role of
CO2 in providing health of humanity and fauna, as well as on physiological
mechanisms of CO2 effects on the organism, all its systems, flora and fauna.
Carbon dioxide is the staple for all the living matter on the Earth (plants take
it from the air). Animals eat plants, and people eat both. Huge percentages of
CO2 in the air of ancient times have come down to our minuscule 0.03%.
Absorption of this residue by plants may inevitably lead to end of life on
Earth. I reported that at the World Geochemistry Congress in Moscow in 1972.
Metabolism in human and animal cells developed in ancient geological epochs when
concentration of carbon dioxide in air and water was dozens per cent. Therefore,
a specific cellular concentration of CO2 is a part and parcel of normal
biochemical processes. In the course of evolution the human organism and the
highest animals have developed a self-governing aerial system in the form of
pulmonary alveolar air which contains about 6.5% of CO2 and 7% less oxygen than
in the ambient air. This is apparently the minimum level of CO2 that provides
normal metabolic activities in cells. For example, reduction of CO2 in the lungs
due to hyperventilation offsets ?? to the alkaline medium which alters vitamin
and ferment activity. When the activity of metabolic regulators changes, normal
metabolism shutters and this leads to loss of cells. If CO2 comes down to 3% and
?? offsets to 8%, the organism dies. Destructive effects of hyperventilation via
creating CO2 deficiency in the organism have been verified by numerous
experiments, first started by the famous physiologist D. Henderson in 1909.
Henderson connected animals to a hyperventilation machine and they died.
Evolution has worked out the following protective mechanisms to stabilize CO2 in
the lungs: ?) bronchospasm and vasospasm; b) increased production of cholesterol
by the liver: it works as a biological insulation that consolidates cell
membranes in the lungs and vessels; and c) lower blood pressure (hypotension),
which reduces loss of CO2. However, bronchospasm and vasospasm constrict
oxygenation of the brain, kidney and cells of other organs. Diminution of CO2 in
the blood enhances reactogenicity of oxygen and hemoglobin to downgrade
oxygenation of cells (the Verigo-Bohr effect). Reduced oxygenation of tissues
results in hypoxia. On reaching hazardous levels, hypoxia may cause higher blood
pressure (hypertension) in some individuals. High blood pressure increases the
bloodstream through constricted vessels to enhance oxygenation of the vitally
important cells. Tissue hypoxia shrinks the level of oxygen in the venous blood
which then brings about varicose veins in legs and develops varix, or,
alternately, varicose haemorrhoidal veins with consequent hemorrhoids. Gradual
subtraction of CO2 from the blood boosts blood coagulation, and combined with
deceleration of bloodstream in the veins it may cause thrombophlebitis. Acute
hypoxia of the vital organs irritates the respiratory center creating the
dominant activation there. This deepens breath, produces the feel of dyspnea (or
air shortage for deep breathers) and locks the vicious circle (the positive
feedback that persistently intensifies or deepens breath, stimulating the above
disorders-illnesses). Removal of CO2 from the nervous cells decreases their
excitability threshold, which activates all parts of the nervous system,
augments the excitement generalization, and leads to irritability, insomnia,
extreme nervous tension, unfounded suspiciousness, fear, or even fainting and
epileptic seizure. Simultaneously, the respiratory center grows more and more
agitated. That is how the second vicious circle of nervous excitement
circulation locks. If metabolism is disturbed and the nervous cells suffer from
hypoxia, the nervous system becomes exceptionally sensitive to external stimuli
and stresses. This is why CO2 deficiency caused, namely, by hyperventilation
affects the nervous system firsthand. Symptoms of various disorder combinations
in deep breathers are incredibly versatile. The traditional disease analysis has
brought us to giving various deep breathing disease symptoms (such as
bronchospasm, cardiac vasospasm, high or low blood pressure, or syncope with
spasms) names of totally different diseases: bronchial asthma, angina, high
blood pressure, and epilepsy. The latter cause side-effects: pneumoscelorsis,
vasosclerosis, cardiac infarction, and stroke. All of these are the main
elements of early senility, decrepitude, disablement and, finally, death. The
above physiological laws explain the malignant (venomous) effects of deep
breathing and give grounds for the only scientific principle of eliminating
disorders (called diseases), i.e. by increasing the level of CO2 in the body.
This is the principle we have based our method of the voluntary hyperventilation
elimination (VHE), or voluntary breath normalization (VBN) on. If the breathing
depth drops below normal and the level of CO2 in the organism grows 0.5% above,
there will be no negative symptoms. Quite on the contrary, ex-patients with deep
breathing (i.e. bronchial asthma, angina, or high blood pressure) develop
symptoms of unendurance, which has been consistently observed for almost two
decades. We found out that extreme de-deepening of breath does not end in
harmful aftereffects. This is how we have actually discovered the main law of
death: the deeper you breathe v the stronger the illness is, and the closer
death draws. Reversely, the shallower the breath, the healthier, tougher and
more durable the organism. The deep breathing disease theory is given out in my
lecture, "The Discovery of Deep Breath Being the Main Cause of Allergy,
Sclerosis, Psychosis, Tuberculosis, Precancer and Other Western Civilization
Degeneration, Degradation, and Ailment Symptoms and Death".
Question: You said it in the lecture that your innovation is rather not curing
illnesses, but mostly finding out their causes. Could you provide more details
on that?
Answer: This is a very important question. Western medicine has slipped to blind
empiricism. This may have happened because they were unable to detect causes of
asthma, angina, high blood pressure, and cancer. Therefore, they neglect the
main principle on which, by the way, the judd-shee medicine is based, ?The
doctor may not treat until he knows the reason. Only when you know it you can
guarantee treatment-. Western doctors have now either stopped looking for the
sources of asthma, angina and high blood pressure or have faulty ideas of them.
That is why these illnesses are still incurable. Deep breathing turned out to be
the root of about 150 ailments, including cancer, as is seen now. Out of 30,000
human disorders 150 develop due to hyperventilation. We have administered a
grandiose synthesis of ailments to prove that asthma, epilepsy, high blood
pressure, angina, infarction, stroke and haemmorrhoidal eczema are the symptoms
of the deep breathing disease. If patients have these illnesses, they get cured
of them, as was proven by the Leningrad and Moscow approbations. Some patients
who were diagnosed asthma had all in all up to twenty-thirty diseases. Our
method healed them all, having made them 100% healthy people.
Question: We-ve touched upon the specifically medical problems. However, I have
another question: if the reason for the above illnesses (allergic, sclerotic,
cancerous, nervous and psychiatric) is hyperventilation, then where does it come
from? What-s the cause of the cause? What produces hyperventilation?
Answer: You mean, what-s the reason-s reason, hyperventilation-s? The primary
breath intensifying factors have already been found. I think the main of them is
propaganda of deep breathing. Modern people are trained to breathe deeply even
before they are born, when our mothers attend deep breathing exercise courses.
Even newborn infants are trained to breathe deeply via lifting and putting down
their hands. This goes on forever, in the nursery school, college, army,
physical exercises- There are also other factors. Overeating, especially on the
animal proteins (fish, chicken, eggs, milk, and, naturally, meat), intensifies
breathing drastically. It-s worth noticing that animal products intensify
breathing more, vegetable food v less; cooked food v more, raw v less. Another
breath deepening element is the lack of motion, absence of physical work,
idleness. Physical loads stimulate production of carbon dioxide and raise its
level in the organism. That is why the people who work physically live longer
and are healthier. Breathing deepens through hypodynamia, rest cure,
horizontality (lying, especially on your back), and longer sleep.
Recommendations to sleep more or even the carotic therapy have cured no one.
Moreover, about the end of sleep, about 5 a.m., there may be attacks of
epilepsy, asthma, angina, infarction, stroke, palsy and death. In other words,
this is the death zone. Breathing intensifies due to various emotions, positive
or negative, overheating, and stuffy rooms. Reversely, rest, tempering, and cold
relax breathing. Breathing deepens through sexual promiscuity and perversions,
while continence decreases the breathing depth. So, it turned out that the key
bases of traditional medicine, such as deep breath, much rest, or lying and
sleeping intensify breathing. Hyperventilation also develops from smoking or
drinking alcohol. Hence, the reverse idea: less breath, less rest, less sleep,
less fun, less promiscuity, but more physical work, work until you sweat since
sweat removes many toxics from the organism. This is how the ascetic principles
are proven to be right. Our civilization becomes more humanized and globalized,
and the moment of possible universal destruction approaches. It can result from
the nuclear weapons, or gradual pollution of the environment, and that-s what we
have now. Mind it, the deep breathing diseases and nervous system intoxication
(i.e. the greed factors) deteriorate human thinking by affecting the nervous
system and the brain cortex first of all. So, the faster the process, the less
understanding humans have they destroy themselves. In other words, the man is
like a lunatic who is climbing up a rotten bow to unavoidably fall down. That is
why we believe our discoveries may deliver us from the coming catastrophe, the
end of earthly civilization.
Question: What leading doctors and researchers share your ideas?
Answer: I can give you names of a few leading researchers who understand and
support my findings, though they may not always correctly evaluate their general
importance. For instance, the well-known surgeon Academician Amossov does not
stand up for surgery that can cure nothing, but supports restorative methods. He
also proclaims fasting, vegetarianism, physical loads. That-s why he understands
what I propose. In his article ?Thinking over Health- in volume 11, 1977 of ?Nauka
I Zhizn- Amossov writes he can-t but reiterate my recommendations to breathe
less and check breath-holding. He agrees that humanity has turned into
deep-breathers, while the deficiency of carbon dioxide results in spasm of
coronary and intestinal vessels. It is also clear and familiar to Academician
Guly from the Ukrainain Academy of Sceince, ex-director of the Institute of
Biochemistry. In his books ?Carbon Dioxide and Life- and ?The Principal
Metabolic Cycles- Guly emphasizes his agreement with my scientific method and
its usefulness. Academician Guly has proved that simple rise of CO2 level in the
organism doubles the milk yield in cows and weight increment in pigs and
chickens, though feeding does not change. In other words, carbon dioxide is the
syrup for protein, fat and carbohydrate synthesis. This means we could enhance
meat, milk, egg and other food production without additional investments. Guly
understands the core of my discovery and says it has grounds
Question: Apart from the deep breathing disease theory, you are known for
developing a series of other fundamental theories. Please speak more about
those.
Answer: In this respect I have to develop the theory of my discovery, the theory
of my method, and the medical theory in general, as Western medicine is
theoretically unsubstantiated. This is a blindly empiric medicine that is trying
to feel its way in search for fortuitous means to help the ill. Today doctors do
not look for the cause of the illness to remove it and cure their patients. They
want a pill or herb to mysteriously help them out. Oriental medicine, namely
judd-shee, starts from the life theory instead of illnesses. They draw the tree
of life, and then the tree of the disease (which looks like the tree of life but
is disfigured). Western medicine does not provide any foundation for the theory
of life whatsoever. There-s simply no such theory. What is there is the theory
of life evolution which may be put in the basement of the life theory. That-s
why I have to work on the evolutionary aspect of the life theory. From the works
by Academicians Oparin and Vinogradov it is known that life on Earth appeared
when its atmosphere consisted of only carbon dioxide with no oxygen. From that
atmosphere the living substance and Humanity itself have emerged. And only much
later, when the plants had eaten carbon dioxide and produced oxygen, the
atmosphere changed spectacularly. Carbon dioxide was removed from the atmosphere
being replaced by large quantities of oxygen. Our cells need about 7% of carbon
dioxide and 2-3% of oxygen. The air around us contains about 0.03% of CO2, which
is 200 times below normal, and 20% of oxygen, which is 10 times above. This
means the air has become poisonous for us. We may say evolution has saved the
living being, namely the Man, by creating an atmosphere in our the lungs. It has
6% of carbon dioxide and by 5% less oxygen. This keeps us alive. The animals
that breathed with the skin have lost CO2 and become extinct. Such has been the
animal world evolution. In fact, each of us repeats it in the mother-s womb. The
human (and animal) fetus in the womb has twice more carbon dioxide and five
times less oxygen than the newborn infant or adult. That-s why we don-t get ill
there. Coming into the world, breathing deeply several times and changing their
environment, children get sick. So, our individual development replicates the
general development on the Earth. To tell you the truth, the substantiation of
the life theory, my discovery and method could begin from the Genesis theory.
The summary of the life theory is: carbon dioxide is the staple for the living
matter on earth; if it disappears from the air, all will die. It is the
principal regulator of all functions in the organism, its main ambience, the
vitamin of all vitamins. It controls the activity of all vitamins and ferments.
If it is deficient, say, due to hyperventilation, all vitamins and ferments work
badly, abnormally, and defectively. This results in metabolic disorders and
finally in allergy, cancer, and tophus. Since western medicine still doesn-t
have a general disease theory, no doctor or researcher can say what the disease
is, though this problem has been expanded on by our physiologist Academician
Anokhin. Disease is the condition where the vital constants go above or below
normal. In actual fact, diagnostics subconsciously stands on the same principle:
doctors measure the vital constants (temperature, blood pressure). To heal the
patient, you have to bring them back to the norm. More than that, my method is
fully and absolutely well-substantiated since I do not propose anything new or
unknown. I suggest we should measure breathing of people with the named ailments
to prove they have deep breathing, hyperventilation, and CO2 deficiency (that-s
what we and our ideological counterparts have done in the works). That is why I
suggest we reduce breathing, particularly its depth, to raise the CO2 level back
to normal. I-d like to repeat it: to normal, that is to international standards
that you can find in all clinics and functional diagnostics research
laboratories. That-s, basically, why my method is logical, scientifically
proven, well-supported and harmless. The man can-t die from reducing deep
breathing to the norm. If we don-t die from deep breathing, we can-t die from
putting it down to normal, which is clear to all.
Question: Apparently, your ideas also include the social and moral footings of
the society.
Answer: The conventional principles of deeper breathing, more breathing, more
lying, sleeping, much eating are the principles of greed. Who may have those
principles? Welchers, spongers, bandits, sadists, terrorists and other socially
dangerous and degrading outcasts. If humanity becomes ascetic, it will wipe out
any chance for these to appear and spread. It may seem a gross exaggeration, but
on reducing breath people will feel their vices sharper. Alcohol and drugs will
never be able to make them happy. And there-s nothing impossible about it. It-s
common knowledge that physical purge entails moral revelations. Mens sana in
corpore sana. Our method does not only purge the organism physically, but also
takes away moral disfigurements and vices. There-s one other thing to say in
favor of our method. It can help reduce food consumption, and this is much like
the triplication of production facilities or agricultural yields. And the last.
It-s clear for us that deep breathing and its ally-illnesses affect the nervous
system. The principle of greed deprives people of sound judgment, and that is
fraught with far-reaching consequences. Therefore my method is a realistic and
effective measure in the struggle for peace against war. If people breathe less,
they-ll become calmer, fairer and more generous to eradicate any chances of war.
